Defeating Islamist extremism

Boston.com News

Jan 22, 2006

''I HAVE been called 'Chrislam' because I am so close to Christians," Abdurrahman Wahid is saying. ''When I was criticized by a certain Muslim preacher for not being harsh enough against the 'kaffir' [infidels] -- for being too close to Jews and Christians -- I told him to read the Koran again. Because when the Koran speaks of 'infidels,' it means idolaters," not monotheists. {And so, killing 'idolaters' isn't murder?

What human has the right to take the lives of those who don't believe as they do? lives they did not give - nor can give back?

Are we not ALL appointed for the grave?...

Psa 89:48 What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave?

It is God Who gives life; therefore, Only God has the right to take it.

And the preaching of the media giants that the Islamic 'extremists' have hijacked Islam - is Great Deception! {{{ Out of the very mouth of 'allah' himself - this is proven. Woe unto the media giants in the Judgment

They've been given the power to stop the vicious violence - because they have been given a voice.

And as hard as it may be for some Muslims to face the truth - their allah still has the authority over them - because he is the god that they have chosen for themselves. If they say they have the right to be friends with Jews and Christians - their own allah will call them liars:

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors {authorities]: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them for friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

This is the truth that many deny - a truth that is causing great bloodshed - which is a great sin! It is the 'terrorists' who have the true understanding of Islam - not the 'moderate' Muslims. The 'moderate' Muslims are either in great deception or they are liars - which it is hard to tell - because 'allah' commands Muslims to lie to the non-Muslims.

Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Wahid, the former president of Indonesia, is speaking to me by phone from his office in Jakarta. With him is C. Holland Taylor, an American entrepreneur who fell in love with Indonesian culture en route to making a fortune in the telecom industry. After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Taylor created the LibForAll Foundation, a nonprofit organization dedicated to fighting Islamist extremism by promoting a culture of liberty and tolerance in the Muslim world; Wahid is the foundation's patron and senior adviser.

Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

The New Testament condemns ALL violence between ALL humans. {That is a fact that no man can deny - because there aren't any New Testament Scriptures that exist to prove otherwise. It is the angels - NOT HUMANS - who will sever the wicked from among the just

Most 'Jewish' religions reject the New testament. But in doing so - they reject two things: Old Testament Scriptures - and the only way to real peace for the whole world - the 'glad tidings' that were offered.

We don't need anyone to teach us - because the Word has been given free reign. That is a truth that this world has no knowledge of; a truth that sets us free.....free from the yokes of the 'masters' of this world, and it is the Supreme Authority Who says so:

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin breaking the Old Covenant no more. {What part of those Old Testament Scriptures did the 'Jewish' religions' masters not understand?

In the New Covenant:

1Jo 2:27 But the anointing [Word of God] which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you.

Did God lie? in BOTH the Old and New testament Scriptures?

Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Our words need to match that which was already written

And so do our deeds:

THE WORKS OF CHRIST - THE SON OF GOD:

Mat 5:44 I [Jesus] say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

1Th 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good.

Rom 13:9 Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Second Greatest Commandment

Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Jhn 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

If everyone were keeping those Holy Commands - there would be real Peace upon the earth - No? And yet, this world not only rejects the only way to true Peace - but spits upon it too. {Is this not true?

It was for the good of ALL - that this was written:

2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine [of Christ], receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed.

Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Does your work include the Word of God?

2Cr 10:4 For the weapons [Scriptures] of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds.

Yes, indeed it is - for the Word of God condemned Palestine a long time ago beginning with the song of Moses}}} Exd 15:14 Joe 3:4 Isa 14:31 - for end time. This is the power to put out the fires that are raging throughout this world. That is how to know which God is The Real One - the One Who gives Life - even eternal Life.

And that is what is at stake here: Eternal Life.

Are you 'singing' the song of Moses?

Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

And the bottom line for Abdurrahman Wahid is this:

Mat 19:18 Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder

Whose kingdom would you rather live in? Abdurrahman Wahid's? or the Kingdom of Jesus?

Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

And this IS what the Koran teaches:

Mass Murder......................... Mass Rape............................ Beheadings............................ Cutting off hands and feet....... Crucifixions............................. Robbery................................. Treason.................................

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Jam 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? NO! it does not Abdurrahman Wahid. No, it does not! and it doesn't take a genius to see the difference either!

With 200 million residents, Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim nation, and Wahid -- popularly known as Gus Dur -- was not only its first democratically elected president but the longtime chairman of its largest Muslim organization, the 35 million-member Nadhlatul Ulama. A revered religious scholar who studied in Cairo and Baghdad, Wahid is a longtime champion of a moderate, progressive, and nonpolitical Islam. As a result, he has frequently clashed with militant fundamentalists whose growing influence, fueled by Arab/Wahhabi oil money, is undermining Indonesia's traditional religious pluralism.

Who has more authority with all Muslims? 'Allah'? or Abdurrahman Wahid?

004.101 When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear '''the unbelievers''' May attack you: For '''the Unbelievers''' are unto you open enemies. 

009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what '''the unbelievers'''  of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors {authorities]: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them for friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet '''the Unbelievers''' in fight, [jihad] smite at their necks. [Behead them!]

004.095 Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit at home. But those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit at home by a special reward.

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?

009.039 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived Abdurrahman Wahid; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. {The same goes for nations

Last year, Wahid spearheaded the opposition to a series of 11 reactionary fatwas, or religious decrees, issued by a high-ranking council of Indonesian Muslim clerics. {The tree is known by its fruit] The fatwas condemned any Islamic teaching based on liberalism and secularism, banned interfaith prayers not led by a Muslim, and even prohibited the answering of ''amen" to a non-Muslim prayer. Wahid and LibForAll promptly organized a group of religious leaders into an ''Alliance Toward a Civil Society," which denounced the fatwas as unworthy of decent Muslims and improper under Indonesia's constitution.

The slaughtering of ''idolaters''? {Where is the 'decency' in that? especially in light of the fact that all do go to the grave - of which God is the Judge?

''Gus Dur went on TV and radio to insist that the fatwas had no legitimacy and called on Muslims to ignore them," Taylor says. ''Because of his genuine scholarship, his criticism carried great weight. This is a model of how to defeat radical Islam worldwide."

A form of narcism; believing that he has more sway than the Koran.

While all of LibForAll's work to date has been in Indonesia, Wahid and Taylor hope to begin operating in other Muslim nations soon. On the drawing board now: a project to translate ''Laskar Cinta" into Arabic and then arrange for an Egyptian pop star to perform and record it at a concert in Cairo. Wahid intends to meet with Egyptian clerics and opinion leaders, to press his view that Islam requires openness toward other religions and that Islamist terrorists and their supporters must be resisted and discredited.

009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what '''the unbelievers'''  of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

There is no way to undo that writing - other than to condemn it! Period!

The 'Son' - is a Prophet of God. The Holy God does not 'reproduce' as humans do - because the Holy God can not die. {This is an understanding that the Islamic world has been robbed of.

Taylor argues that because of Indonesia's long tradition of pluralism, and because of Wahid's great following, Indonesia is the ideal base from which to launch an intellectual and cultural assault against the jihadists' ideology. The ''essence" of Islam, he and Wahid maintain, is summed up in the words of the Koran (Sura 109:6): ''For you, your religion; for me, my religion." But whether such a message will resonate in the Arab world remains to be seen. After all, jihadists quote the Koran too, and the verses they cite are as intolerant and supremacist as Wahid's is pacific and humane.

Jam 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

But there is no doubting Wahid's commitment to interfaith harmony. He tells Indonesian Muslims that they can learn from Christianity and Christian life, and has dispatched armed members of Nadhlatul Ulama to protect Christian churches from Islamist violence. Not long ago, one of Wahid's Muslim adherents was killed when he discovered a bomb in a church and used his body to shield the Christian worshipers from its blast. That stunning act of selflessness is a powerful reminder that Muslims no less than non-Muslims have a great deal riding on the defeat of the Islamofascists, and that we will not win the war against radical Islam without Muslim allies like Wahid.

Are those who put forth unselfish deeds keeping with the New Testament ? or the Koran?

You be the Judge:

From the New Testament:

Jhn 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

From the Koran:

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors {authorities]: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them for friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Take away the teachings of Christ from the cradles? and the teachings of Muhammad are there to fill in the gap. {No man can change that fact.

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.