EU shocker: Hamas are 'freedom fighters'

WorldNetDaily

April 14, 2005

A top European Union official held a secret meeting in Gaza with the leaders of Hamas, in spite of EU denials to the contrary, in which he praised the terror organization's work, blamed terrorism on "Israeli occupation," referred to Hamas militants as "freedom fighters" and failed to contradict claims Israel was responsible for the September 11 attacks, according to transcripts of the conversation obtained by WorldNetDaily.

There were some leaked reports of the 2002 meeting, but the transcripts for the first time expose what was discussed with Hamas and may shed light on various aspects of EU Mideast diplomacy.

The transcripts, seized from the Palestinian Authority Preventive Security compound in Gaza during Israel's 2002 Defensive Shield operation and released through Israel's Center for Special Studies, document a discreet meeting between Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, who was assassinated by Israel in March 2004, and Alistair Crooke, the security adviser for Miguel Moratinos, then EU special envoy for promoting the peace process in the Middle East.

The meeting conflicts with a November 2004 statement issued by a spokeswoman on behalf of EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana denying Solona or his staff ever met or held "direct contacts" with Hamas or other groups featured on the EU list of banned terrorist organizations.

Also present for the secret EU discussions were Hamas senior members Mahmoud al-Zahar, head of the group's Gaza faction, and Dr. Abd al-Aziz al-Rantisi, a senior Hamas official recently assassinated by Israel.

The documents, authenticated by security experts, are written in Arabic by Palestinian officials on PA stationary.

According to the confidential transcripts, Crooke explained to Hamas leaders he requested the meeting, in part, because he was worried a speech to be delivered by U.S. President George W. Bush regarding American policy toward the Middle East might reflect negatively on the EU.

"We are currently in an extremely grave situation," said Crooke, according to the documents. "Europe doesn't know what President Bush is going to say in his speech to the Middle East. So far there are about 27 drafts of that speech, and there are disagreements in the American administration over that issue."

Crooke urged Hamas to keep the meeting private so that, the envoy explained, Israel and the U.S. could not take advantage of the conversation, according to the transcripts.

Upon what Spiritual Authority does Islam demand that Palestine be established? a name that their god never even mentioned? ...and one that the True Lord warned this world about?

The Lord of the Bible told about Palestine - beginning with His very first author - Moses} Exd 15:14   AND here is Palestine - for ALL to see!

Psa 137:8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be  [the avenger], that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

Isa 14:27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?

 

Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

Crooke immediately voiced his appreciation of the terror group's welfare programs, which include schools and health care centers, and praised Hamas as an "important political factor."  [To help build that which God already condemned]

Where are the voices of the self-professing 'Christian' leaders?

Why build that which the Lord already said He will destroy?

Isa 41:26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? [Righteous in His wrath]

He told Yassin and the other top Hamas leaders present: "The main problem is the Israeli occupation," explaining he understood it was impossible for Hamas to lower the level of violence unless Israel and the Palestinians were engaged in a political process.

Crooke reminded Yassin the Mitchel Report, an independent list of recommendations that had just been released and of which Crooke was a co-author, determined it was impossible for violence to cease without a foreseeable political solution.  Impossible?

2Cr 10:4 The weapons [Scriptures] of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

But the self-professing 'Christian' leaders of this world have refused to speak them.

Yassin responded he was satisfied with Crooke's "understanding" that the source of violence in the Middle East is Israel's "occupation," which Yassin said refers to the entire state of Israel, founded in 1948, not just the West Bank, which Israel obtained following the 1967 Six Day War.

With the name Israel around - Muhammad can never be the prophet that Islam claims him to be. And no one knows this better - than the Islamic leaders, themselves.

"The Israeli army conquered the land in 1948 and followed in our footsteps in 1967," said Yassin. "It kills civilians, the elderly, women and children and prevents us from earning livelihood. What are we to do? Are we to raise a white flag and surrender?"

Not until 1947 - did the U.N. agree to establishing the name Palestine as a state - the exact same year a young Arab boy found the Dead Sea Scrolls - written well before the Koran was - but not found until over 1000 years later. They were kept untouched - with proof that the Lord told of Palestine for end times - a fact that the allah of the Koran did not know ....who claims....

049.008 O mankind! verily there hath come to you a convincing proof from your Lord

Deu 18:20 The prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.


Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?


Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

 

What proof is allah able to offer?  that is as powerful as the proof the Lord of the Bible has offered?  proof as powerful as the reality of Palestine having become such a sore issue for this whole world?

 

Let 'allah' bring forth some kind of convincing proof - if he is telling the Truth!

 

Therefore, Yassin explained, according to the transcripts, Palestinians must rise up against the occupation, and the international community cannot ask the Palestinian people to stop defending themselves.

The name Israel has always been in that region.  The name Palestine did not originate with 'allah'.  Muhammad's people borrowed a condemned name - that came from the Bible - beginning with its very first author - Moses.

Yassin told Crooke he was dissatisfied with an EU decision to place Hamas on an official list of terror organizations, suggesting the Europeans should support Hamas "the way you supported the [Muslim] fighters in Afghanistan."

Crooke replied Europe sympathized with the Palestinian people, adding, "I explained to Solana and [British Prime Minister Tony] Blair that the status of Europe in the eyes of the Palestinians has started to decline. ... We do not consider Hamas' political wing to be a terrorist organization."  Europe pays their bills? and they're worried about what the Palestinians might think of them?  What is it - the Palestinians have over the Europeans?

What ever it is - it doesn't matter....

Here is the status of Palestine - in the eyes of the Living Lord - of the Everlasting Kingdom of God:

Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

If you support Palestine - then you are Palestine:

Mat 12:30 He that is not with Me is against Me

Jer 10:10 At His wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide His indignation.

The name Israel came from God - not man!

Crooke talked about different definitions of terrorism: "As for terrorism, I hate that word. I've spent some time in my life with freedom fighters like in Colombia. ?"   hmmm ...the FARC? [known for their production of cocaine?]

Hamas, a major force in the West Bank and Gaza, has perpetrated thousands of attacks that have killed several hundred Israelis, and is behind many of the Qassam and mortar attacks that have been hitting Jewish communities in Gaza.

That Koran justifies the slaying of infidels - for the Muslims

[a violation of international laws]

 

But where does it justify slaying them - in the name of Palestine?

 

The Koran devoted a whole chapter to the children of Israel

 

Who is Israel?  [Let 'allah' explain - if he can]

Hamas also maintains a political wing that pollsters now say is likely to do well in upcoming Palestinian parliamentary elections in which the group announced this week it will run. Hamas is currently supported by about 25 percent of the Palestinian population and is considered a formidable challenge to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party, which is backed by about 48 percent of Palestinians.

At the 2002 meeting, Yassin informed Crooke of his goal to replace Israel with a "true state" encompassing the entire territory of "Palestine," based on Arab and Islamic tradition [Islamic laws] and distanced from the corruption that Yassin said originates in Israel and the West.

If the West and Israel are so corrupt - then why are Palestinians committing murder in a name that they borrowed from them?

Without addressing Yassin's comments, Crooke continued by stating the EU objected to Israeli settlement activity.

"There must be a total halt of the settlement [activity]," said Crooke.

Yassin then blamed Israel for the September 11 terror attacks.Well, Israel surely made the Palestinians happy that day - didn't she?

They proudly danced and celebrated in their streets.

" Time will tell that Israel knew [in advance] what happened in America, and that it was global Zionism that paralyzed the American security so that war could be declared on the Islamic world and [on] Hamas. Approximately 100-120 American Zionist agents [knew about it] and did not report it. I do not rule out the possibility that they attempted to induce Hamas [operatives] and other Islamic operatives [to do it]. "  hmmmm - So Israel was able to send 19 Saudi Arabians to do the job?

Mar 13:14 When ye shall see the abomination of desolation {without life - "He that hath the Son hath life; he that hath not the Son of God hath not life" - Palestine denies the Son] spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, [The name Israel is the Lord's heritage]

 

Mat 24:21 Then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

"Time will tell"

Crooke, who according to the documents again didn't respond to Yassin's charges, expressed his wish that dialogue with Hamas would continue, preferably through the mediation of Palestinian Authority representatives, in order "not to cause embarrassment to any side."

For many in Israel, the release of the transcripts may fuel longstanding charges of anti-Israel bias on the part of the EU. [surprise? surprise?]  The Israeli government many times has expressed dissatisfaction with EU decisions it claims negate the Jewish state's security and political position.

Israel was upset that EU nations, particularly France and the UK, maintained close relations with late PLO leader Yasser Arafat, who was blamed for directing terrorist activity, despite U.S. and Israeli calls to isolate him. And Israeli officials blasted recent European criticism related to the construction of a West Bank security barrier that has been directly credited with decreasing the number of suicide bombers able to infiltrate Israel.

Observers attribute the EU's traditional pro-Palestinian stance to its close economic ties to Arab countries and growing Muslim populations throughout Europe.

1Ti 6:10 The love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

The EU previously adamantly denied meeting with Hamas, although in one interview, given to the BBC, Solana mentioned he had "had direct contact with Hamas, but not in the last few days."

Yesterday, EU envoy Mark Otteh met Palestinian leader Abbas, offering to train Palestinian police, some of whom have been connected to acts of terror, and discussing the possibility of renewed economic assistance to the PA.

"Of course the EU is biased against Israel. This is nothing knew," said a deputy from Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office who was aware of the transcripts. "But to read [the Crooke] conversations is still shocking. The level of immorality displayed by it is very telling of the EU approach to the Middle East."

Why aren't the leaders of that region - which is called Israel - speaking up the Truth? about the name Palestine? ....[given in the Old Testament]

2Cr 10:4 The weapons [Scriptures] of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

The Lord condemned Palestine - a LONG time ago!

Where are the voices of the self-professing 'Christian' leaders?

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