'Offensive' remarks taken straight from Koran, defence says

Times Online

Jan 20, 2006

COPIES of the Koran were handed to the jurors in the Abu Hamza trial yesterday as his defence argued that some of the cleric’s “offensive” statements were drawn directly from Islam’s holy book.

Edward Fitzgerald, QC, for the defence, said that Abu Hamza’s interpretation of the Koran was that it imposed an obligation on Muslims to do jihad and fight in the defence of their religion. He said that the Crown case against the former imam of Finsbury Park Mosque was “simplistic in the extreme”.

You be the judge:

From the Koran...

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors {authorities]: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them for friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and  the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what '''the unbelievers'''  of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

009.123 O ye who believe! fight '''the unbelievers''' who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.

004.101 When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear '''the unbelievers''' May attack you: For '''the Unbelievers''' are unto you open enemies. 

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet '''the Unbelievers''' in fight, [jihad] smite at their necks. [Behead them!]

Who is not able to understand those writings? They are declarations of war - on a level that any child can understand. Who wants to have neighbors that believe in those teachings?

1Cr 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1Cr 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with the True Living God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. {The same goes for nations

 

He added: “It is said he was preaching murder, but he was actually preaching from the Koran itself.”

033.061 They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy.

Slain:

1) To kill violently.

2) past tense and past participle often slayed

Mercy

1) Compassionate treatment, especially of those under one's power; clemency.

2) A disposition to be kind and forgiving

The Koran says without mercy

What about the UN 'humanitarian' kings? Where are they?

What about the college professors? Where are they?

Where are the self-professing 'Christian' leaders?

Isa 59:4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

Mr Fitzgerald cited two verses of the book that Abu Hamza would rely on, among many others, as theological justification for the words that had led to him being charged. They were Chapter 2, verse 216 and Chapter 9, verse 111. He said that all the great monotheistic religions had scriptures that contained “the language of blood and retribution”.

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?

009:111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs in return is the garden of Paradise: they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

He said that all the great monotheistic religions had scriptures that contained “the language of blood and retribution”.

Both the Old Exd 20:13 and New Rom 13:9 Testaments condemn all violence between all humans on a level that a child can understand. See} Stoning

The God of the Bible Who told about Palestine for end times is not the same god as the Koran - who forgot to mention Palestine altogether.

Because the God of the Bible speaks to BOTH the angels And humans - and gives the angels different commands from humans - no one can say that the God of the Bible teaches that humans are aloud to be violent with each other.

The Old Testament is a record of the angels also:

Rth 2:3 And she [Ruth] went, and came, and gleaned in the field after the reapers [the reapers are angels]: and her hap was to light on a part of the field belonging unto Boaz, who was of the kindred of Elimelech.

Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels [not humans] shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just.

Humans are not aloud to kill each other. God already ordained that all humans must die - eventually:

Psa 89:48 What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave?

1Th 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

Hbr 10:30 For we know Him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto Me, I will recompense, saith the Lord.

Deu 32:39 See now that I [The Lord], even I, am He, and there is no god with Me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of My hand.

Humans don't have any right in killing each other - because humans can not give life. That is what the Bible teaches and no man can prove otherwise because God speaks to BOTH the angels And humans and their commands are not the same. See} Stoning

No where in the Bible will you find teachings that send humans out into the whole world to slay all non-believers.

He said that all the great monotheistic religions had scriptures that contained “the language of blood and retribution”. {And the world believes in that lie.

1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

Abu Hamza’s remarks, which the prosecution alleges amount to an attempt to stir up racial hatred against the Jewish people, were, Mr Fitzgerald said, a reference to the Hadith — sayings of the Prophet Muhammad — in which fighting between Jews and Muslims is predicted.

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors {authorities]: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them for friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

005.041 O Messenger! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: whether it be among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie.

The Hadith says that the trees will call out to the Muslims “there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him”.

The defence counsel said this was “a highly unusual case” because unlike most prosecutions for incitement to murder it did not involve someone telling a specific person to kill an identifiable individual.

009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and  the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what '''the unbelievers'''  of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

009.123 O ye who believe! fight '''the unbelievers''' who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet '''the Unbelievers''' in fight, [jihad] smite at their necks. [Behead them!]

That's a lot of people to be killed

Abu Hamza’s sermons had to be viewed in context, coinciding with conflicts in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bosnia, Kosovo and the Palestinian territories. Mr Fitzgerald said that the West had initially been on the side of the Mujahidin in Afghanistan when they were fighting the Soviet Union army. There had even been a James Bond film, The Living Daylights, in which 007 fought alongside the Mujahidin.

He added: “Mr Hamza has said things that most people will find deeply offensive and hateful. But he is not on trial for describing England as a toilet. There is no crime of simply being offensive.”

There are laws that already exist to condemn Treason

008.067 It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war [slay them first] until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. {Treason - in all non-Muslim nations]

It is not fair to put this case upon a small handful of people [the jury].....because of the magnitude of the problem.

Where are the 'humanitarian' kings of the UN? {That is where this case belongs!


See} The United States Constitution condemns the Koran on a level that a child can understand - which leaves ALL American leaders [especially the self-professing 'Christian' ones]  without excuse for all who are suffering now, and those who WILL suffer for the senseless loss of a loved-one - slaughtered at the hands of true Muslims; true, because they take the word of their Koran seriously - which is more than can be said for the 'elite' of this world.

Isa 54:9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto Me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

Isa 17:12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!

Like it or not - the Truth is this: Take away the teachings of Jesus and the teachings of Muhammad will surely fill in the gap. {Is this not already so?

The Koran does teach all Muslims to be violent with all non-Muslims...

Mass Murder.........................

Mass Rape............................

Beheadings............................

Cutting off hands and feet.......

Crucifixions.............................

Robbery.................................

Treason.................................

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Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. {The same goes for nations.

Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.

No one can make the New Testament preach war between humans. If you don't believe - try it. Put forth the New Testament Scriptures that preach war between humans. [There aren't any]

Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.